While having buffet lunch with Jireh Seow, Martin Yeo, his son Kevin and not to forget, my wife, I got a call from Dr. Jessie who sounded distressed (should be angry, dishearted and “TOM YAM” boiling in the brain). However, the news is about this diploma mills issue.
Anyway, got to know that may be some times people think that she is being trying to deceif them (not), but I could only say, “nay”! The Dr. is doing what she is supposed to do, that is healing (fact of life, function of Doctor is not to make money, their function is to heal). May be for those like TOM (from now on, I think I will start calling him Tom yam) and the rest that is stressing up the Dr., I could only say this, “Come face to face, (Even Video Conferencing can be arranged) and put everything on the table. Let everything out so that it is not just the mindful thoughts of one person on one party but the mutual recognition of each other to resolve the problem on this issue on quacks claimed.
One point of thoughts, maybe it is true that Lafayette Uni is a mill, could it be that the Dr. is a victim and not an accomplice? I would think that the Some outfit which major line of business is products certifications may have some training centre (I know because I used to study in one) but they are not qualify to issue diplomas. However, these outfit does conduct the courses as perscribed and needed for the certification. Now come the part on the big word “CERTIFICATION”. Since their main line of business is just training, they may not be qualified for the cerification process. Hence the affiliations comes in; and in good faith, some may ended up affiliating with a mill instead of a real school. They may pretend to be running legit school but come to the end, they are actually a beast in disguise.
Well, some news on Dr. Jessie Chung, coming up will be her autobio which she is now concentrating now. Though I have yet to met up with her since the wedding. For Tom, this will be like listening through the mouth of the tiger. For the others, this is the story of a person, from a life time worth of experiences, since conception, through the pounding, the twisting, the boiling, the pain, the pine, the ups and downs, the flying and the crying, the shaping and transformations, the rightful findings, the pick it up and the letting go of the the whole deal in the life of a being, born as Jeffrey Chung and consumate as Mrs Joshua Ma nee Dr. Jessie Chung, a fairy tale in the making and a story of Dr. who has touched the well being of many and improved the quality of life for many more.
Now listen to a song I hope the Dr. will like.
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May I submit to your readers that perhaps she is a more willing accomplice than a victim, as you have suggested?
I am certain that most Malaysians are aware that in order to earn a degree, one must attend classes (viirtual, correspondence or in situ), complete all the assignments and undertake a battery of tests and exams before one is granted a degree. And this is accomplished through a sustained period over 2 to 5 years depending on the degree (2 years for most masters). I am certain that Malaysian society would understand that if one pays a large amount of money and can receive a degree by mail in a very short period of time (measured in weeks), the value of that degree is questionable. Particularly one that does not have a campus or faculty.
I cannot see how a video-conference or even a phone call can verify or confirm “Dr” Jessie’s credentials. I am not the one with false credentials. I pointed out the dubious nature of these universities.
All Pierce or Jessie/Jefferey have to do is provide the webpage (or an address where I can obtain an academic catalogue) of the universities “Dr” Chung graduated from or holds an academic posting.
So far, all I have seen are red herrings. And unfulfilled promises to provide more information, and personal attacks.
BTW, in answer to your question who upset “Dr.” Jessie Chung? She did – the day she bought her first degree.
The truth is a very devasting weapon … I call this my truth can(n)on.
Dear Tom,
This is my blog. I allow you to say your thoughts on it and it is in my every right to do so or whatever as how I see fit. This also includes comments I made here. If you have omitted the T&C of this site then I would suggest you read it again.
You are coming into my realm and talk cannon (lies) with you uttered thinkings and your attics. Please respect the host when you are a guest here. By the way, there is a glitches in the posting earlier which causes some unclosed HTML tags and Some browser like MSIE will die on. I apologised for it eventhough it is the fault of wordpress.
Back o the subject, she did not upset herself when she (then he) bought the air ticket, bid farewell to a whole bunch of friends and flown to Hawaii with a guitar on the back to study that degree (still have photo proof at my parent’s house when we sent then him off at Kuching Airport). She (then he) sure did not spent those time and money there in Hawaii studying for a degree and spent more time in Bei Jing continuing studying and spent even more TIME studying all the remedies for her now business to go on. She has spent TIME on the Degree and what she has accomplished is the recompense for the time she has spent. This is the truth. All the people (population of more than 3 thousand that I know off) who has knew him/her can vow for this.
You claimed that you have a cannon (truth) and it is a your weapon. I would be doubting it cause you DO NOT HAVE THE FACT STRAIGHT!. you DO NOT WANT TO KNOW THE FACT!. and you only want to win, win, win and win because you have never won anything before. (right????) That is the truth Cannon you have.
One point of advise, in chinese/mandarin/and or any other chinese dialects, cannon means lies. When someone lies about something, they are called a cannon launcher and their lies are called cannon. It is equivilent of the tease “liar! liar! Pants on fire!”. Maybe you should rethink the use of the term Cannon! I would rather be the canon (priest) of my blog than you being the cannon on my blog.
On the context of education, I would refer you to an article last week in The star (http://www.thestar.com.my) where a teacher was commenting on the level of accomplishment where a lot of student passed PMR with flying colours. The comment is that the standard of marking has been reduced to a common level where more people will pass the exam and therefore, makes those with Mensa 80++ (my own analysis) to pass with straight As. Education is an enterprise in Malaysia that makes millions a year. Why don’t you criticised them instead of hitting the issue on quacks outside it bush touching on education on the ground of quack? Maybe you should rethink where you are pointing your cannon before you fire your next shot.
If you want to stick to the issue of quacks, then stick to it. Don’t point here and there for your so called truth and make my reader clueless. I would say, give me your address, I will send you a gift (compass) so that you can find your direction in this cyberspace.
I would say, leave quacks as quacks and false education credentials as it is. my blog is not a rojak (Malaysian versin of salad) bowl for you to make your rojak out of the two.
You have been attacking Dr. Jessie Chung with your so called Truth Cannon on my blog. I see something coming. Though I still going to maintain that I will moderate all post and will allow all post that I see fit on my blog (basically filter out all the spam ad comments and trackback) I will make an exception when I come to this issue if there is no moderation of thoughts from you on my blog. I have also allow Henry and Jessie to access this blog and give their comments directly.
I must say I see logic in qbuster’s arguments.. any replies Pierce?
We’ll make it simple …
…. have Jessie put up the URLs (or addresses) of the universities she attended/teach. Nothing could be simpler. She can also e-mail me – you have the addy.
This is not the only blog (with a readership of what? 10?) where her false credentials are posted. Edit and censor all you want – this is a free world (at least where I am). Censoring me is like sticking your head in the sand, and I can tell you already have sand up to your ears at this point. But I do apologize if I upset you as well … did not realized you are so quick-tempered.
DC,
Replied as per comment the same time you post the question.
…. mistakenly clicked on “submit”. My bad.
Just because you saw her fly off does not means she graduated. She could have wasted all her time in Hawaii playing the guitar, and when her visa was expiring and there was no degree in hand, she bought herself her first mail-order degree.
Realizing how easy the con was … the mail orders continued. It is people like yourself who is legitimatizng her con, by supporting her lie.
By the way, when I asked for proof … they were rhetorical questions. I already knew the answer – they won’t be any “evidence” forthcoming as there is nothing supportive. I had been expecting smoke screens, personal attacks, distractions, temper tantrums, etc. Anything but the evidence and the truth.
Just seeing how long you were going to continue to spin the lie.
YES, I welcome Jessie’s posts here.
quick tempered? hmm I am not even angry yet. All I was is firm on what I’ve mentioned to you in email and yet you kept pushing your own thoughts and cannon through my blog. Though moderation is a must nowaday when there are so many advertisement going around blogs. But if things is going to drag me into some deframations, I will hit the brake before I ran over into the canyon.
And what do Pierce do when he is angry … pull the plug? Take the ball home?? Don’t invite people to leave a reply if this is just your realm and your blog to just rant. Some dictatorships run like this.
Besides, I have given you your 15 seconds of fame.
But let’s cut back to the chase … have Jessie post the URLs or addresses of the universities she attended/graduated/teach.
I don’t know whether it is or not a Fly-by Dip she has or something she sat hours of exam for. but you claimed that I am legitimising her con???? mind your word. Last shot you have has marred me in your email when it is in fact TM Net’s unstabled services here. Now you want to marred me again!??!??
I go rock climbing when I hit the roof. Erm… I don’t use balls nor did I play them.
I welcome comments but when someone take a “Senapang Gajah” (cannon) pointing at you making you drive over the canyon, you will do the same by hitting the brake. Don’t tell me you are stupid enough for a superman experiment???!!!??
This is what I’ve done.
I have just SMS Jessie and asked her to post her credentials on this blog so that we can all see the list of credentials and proof she has. Now in order not to get her cert spoofed, I have advised her to watermark her scanned cert before posting. Since most of the cert are not within her physical reach at the moment due to the fact that she has probably kept her cert in KL while she is still here in Kuching, I will give her couple of weeks before I asked her again for the list. It will take times to book ticket as what my colleague here in the office is facing trying to get to KL for a meeting. MAS – FULL, Air-Asia (Web Jammed) (Mobile Jammed) Almost full.
I will put a disclaimer there saying that these cert is hers and got nothing to do with me. The posting of the cert is based on the request of another quest to my blog.
On the dictator thingy, I kinda like being a dictator (on my blog) maybe once in awhile. but most of the time, I will be just a king in disguise.
OK, Pierce, you win. I’ll let you have the last word. This is your blog as well, right?
Besides, I do not comprehend half of what you wrote in your local colloquism … such is the plight of an expat.
Just get me the URL and addresses, unless they do not exist. I know they don’t, hence ……
Hey Tom,
Go watch Narnia. Its a nice movie to get your mind off this quack thingy.
Narnia does not officially start until the 9th. How did you guys get the movie so soon? Rips??
I am a big fan of CS Lewis.
BTW, thanks for the certificates but they will not proof much. I also like (actually prefer) URLs and addresses as well – so that I can contact these places myself. Easier on the good “doctor”.
… dang – push “Reply” button again too soon.
I will check back in 2-3 weeks. If all these prove to be true, I will eat my words and apologize. But I doubt it ……
not rips. Last night Digi has a screening of Narnia at Star cineplx here in Kuching for all existing Digi customers.
Read my post on Narnia. It portray human suffering and the salvation of Christ (in the movie is Aslan the Lion) by dying and overcoming death and punishment.
Yes, I am aware of the Christian-themes in CS Lewis’ books.
Hence my love for his books, or any books with an absolute moral theme. I am dead against moral relativism .. but I am not here to preach my values to your readers (although I am aware many are Christians).
May I suggest Jessie or you post the URLs and addresses of the universities at my new blog page: http://qbuster.blogspot.com/?
I realize I may have overstayed my welcome here and I apologize for wasting your band width.
Overstay? No such thing as Overstay in Cyberspace. You cannot be physically beamed into my server …..
Anyway, I have found the problem which caused the post to vanished. Something to do with upgrading the MySQL server to version 5.1 stable. Some now when my script initiated the back up process, it changes the default encoding and caused the text to be a mess after the script has completed the process. But Both copies of the data on the .sql and inside the myd are overwritten by a different encryptions.
Anyway, Tom, if you have the previous post, kindly email me the text so that I can return them into my blog.
By the way, I’ve talked to Jessie yesterday and she has told me what she has planned to do about this issue. So, Tom, watch out for her announcement which is coming soon. I believed it is only fair for her to publish her own accomplishments on her own website.
I won’t go as far as setting up a blog just for her. As you may see, I sure did not go head on with anyone in my blog. I’m only saying that if there is something that has been said here that might causes some problem with the law, I will stop it. So far, I have yet to see anything written in such a manner. You are always welcome to post your entry here should you have any hot topics which you would like to raise. e. g. How many finger does Tom have and so on.
The long of it; the short of it, I will publish things which I feel ok but some text might ended up censorred. That is diplomacies in neutralism.
Unfortunately I do not have the text either.
Why don’t you re-write it while it is still fresh in your mind … I believe you were relating how your lunch was disturbed by a phone call from the good “doctor”, raving mad about me and my expose.
You were also wondering if she was in fact an unwilling victim rather than an accomplice. And how certification bodies team up with diploma mills.
You offered me to video-conference with you. Something about me misbehaving on your blog, and doing what Romans do.
And how Jessie is such a kind soul having helped many, and why MDs are money grabbers.
And you called me a Yam.
Tell Jessie to have an English version on her site. And the URLs and addresses are all I really need.
Oh.. No worries, she is reading this blog.
What is this worth to you????
While having buffet lunch with Jireh Seow, Martin Yeo, his son Kevin and not to forget, my wife, I got a call from Dr. Jessie who sounded distressed (should be angry, dishearted and “TOM YAM” boiling in the brain). However, the news is about this diploma mills issue.
Anyway, got to know that may be some times people think that she is being trying to deceif them (not), but I could only say, “nay”! The Dr. is doing what she is supposed to do, that is healing (fact of life, function of Doctor is not to make money, their function is to heal). May be for those like TOM (from now on, I think I will start calling him Tom yam) and the rest that is stressing up the Dr., I could only say this, “Come face to face, (Even Video Conferencing can be arranged) and put everything on the table. Let everything out so that it is not just the mindful thoughts of one person on one party but the mutual recognition of each other to resolve the problem on this issue on quacks claimed.
One point of thoughts, maybe it is true that Lafayette Uni is a mill, could it be that the Dr. is a victim and not an accomplice? I would think that the Some outfit which major line of business is products certifications may have some training centre (I know because I used to study in one) but they are not qualify to issue diplomas. However, these outfit does conduct the courses as perscribed and needed for the certification. Now come the part on the big word “CERTIFICATION”. Since their main line of business is just training, they may not be qualified for the cerification process. Hence the affiliations comes in; and in good faith, some may ended up affiliating with a mill instead of a real school. They may pretend to be running legit school but come to the end, they are actually a beast in disguise.
Well, some news on Dr. Jessie Chung, coming up will be her autobio which she is now concentrating now. Though I have yet to met up with her since the wedding. For Tom, this will be like listening through the mouth of the tiger. For the others, this is the story of a person, from a life time worth of experiences, since conception, through the pounding, the twisting, the boiling, the pain, the pine, the ups and downs, the flying and the crying, the shaping and transformations, the rightful findings, the pick it up and the letting go of the the whole deal in the life of a being, born as Jeffrey Chung and consumate as Mrs Joshua Ma nee Dr. Jessie Chung, a fairy tale in the making and a story of Dr. who has touched the well being of many and improved the quality of life for many more.
Now listen to a song I hope the Dr. will like.
Worth A thousand million smiles. Thank you Tom
I’ll settle for a few URLs and addresses.
wah. she was really that upset? there is a possibility that she unwittingly became a victim of lafayette university but then again, only she knows the real story. i’ll be waiting for her version to come out.
=)
Her complete version of story will come out when she publish her book soon.
her BOOK?? wow, she’s good at publicising (sp?) herself. i wish her all the best then.
p/s: since you know her personally, could you ask her to make an english version of her website?
Just saw Chr. of Narnia … beautiful allegory.